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je suis gay et je voudrais devenir hetero

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osfor
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  2. Posté le 01/11/2013 à 18:48:17  
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Un jour, j'irais.
Juste pour organiser une révolution.
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tonclonedu03
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  2. Posté le 11/01/2014 à 23:19:53  
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j'avou c t du fake :) j'm me foutre de la gueule des gens et jm'en fou de cke vs pensez ;)
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saintrow
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  2. Posté le 11/01/2014 à 23:36:54  
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Putain.. Tu es revenu après environ 2 ans juste pour dire.. Ca ? Putain mais va te pendre, t'es inutile, à cause des gens comme toi, quand quelqu'un dira quelque chose de vrai, on criera tous au fake alors que cette personne a vraiment besoin d'aide.

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Moi c'est surtout le tous le monde se moque de moi qui m'a fait tiqué ! à méditer !
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les autres n'ont pas a te juger.tu est different d'eux mais eux sont different de toi aussi (noter comme cette logique est implacable :D )et comme on ta dit, tu ne peux pas te forcer a aimer autre chose.

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  2. Posté le 15/01/2014 à 08:03:17  
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C'est comme ça, tu ne peux pas changer d'orientation sexuelle, en claquant des doigts, même en faisant tout ton possible. Car même si tu sors avec une fille, ça ne va rien changer,tu auras toujours une attirance vers les hommes. En plus pourquoi tu veux être hétéro ? alors que gay c'est une des meilleurs (pour moi) orientation, il faut en être fière, parce que tu peux avoir des opinions différentes mais dix fois plus intéressante. ;).

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  2. Posté le 15/01/2014 à 13:48:28  
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Et en plus tu n'es pas différent, tu es comme nous

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tobias-jesus
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  2. Posté le 03/01/2018 à 04:53:56  
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I had a homosexual tendency, but now I have changed, I am a new person.
I am a 27 year old man from Bogotá Colombia. And I want to share my experience to give hope to people with homosexual tendencies men and women who are looking to get out of this situation many times with desperation.

Since I was a child I had this tendency, and in youth up to the age of 24 I entered this world, sometimes it seemed that I was going to fulfill my desires and searches but everything ended up being like a mirage, I did not find what I was looking for.

From the age of 7 I was immersed in a very religious and spiritual Catholic environment in my family, so God was always present in my life to this day.
When I fell into masturbation, pornography, chats; I felt very bad afterwards, because according to my faith it was a grave sin and it seriously offended God. Even so, I continued to fall because they were already ingrained habits and I did not have enough fear to offend God. I was always going to urgently seek confession with a priest in any church, even if it was very frequent.
Then in a moment I was further away from God than at any other time by a person who seemed at first to be the best thing in my life, but later it began to look like a falsehood. Although I tried to seek God by asking forgiveness for getting away from Him, that situation was quite strong and I was letting myself be totally dominated by that.
In the university academic part I was not having the results that I expected after years of effort and suffering, this was something that was tormenting me. So at that moment I began to feel very much the presence and action of God in my life because I could not do anything else.

Then my brother invited me to a spiritual retreat, I had already attended many things of God: retreats, congresses, groups, prayers etc. But in this retreat like never before, Jesus revealed himself to me in a very strong and profound way, although I did not see him, I strongly felt his presence and that He loved me very much. In the end I saw the Virgin Mary in a slightly fuzzy way.
After that I could not be the same, it was something that marked me a lot. I changed my life radically. I moved away from all the people related to my previous life, especially those that could lead me directly or indirectly to follow the homosexual tendency and I eliminated my Facebook account. I did not know very well what I should do, I just know that I had to change my life totally. Then I began to pray a lot, ask God for forgiveness, thank Him, ask Him to heal me and free me from all bad things, and make the effort not to offend Him more at all costs.
The experience that I had lived in the retreat gave me great fear of offending God, so even though it was almost impossible, I did not fall again into masturbation, pornography, chats, etc. I left the television and movies that although they were common and current, when there was a man character I was in danger of allowing the homosexual tendency in my thought. When I had a thought of that kind or some look I rejected them immediately and energetically with prayer.

Time passed and things became difficult, worse than before in the academic part I had to lower my head a lot, learn the virtue of humility, and in a very special way trust in God. A trauma of my childhood, which I will explain later, had much to do in this situation as in others. I had no other choice but to make myself like a helpless child, in the hands of my God father, in imitation of the Child Jesus.
Trust Him so I would not understand, and despite the difficulties that seemed to get worse. This lasted two and a half years, in that last half year something very strange happened to me. At least the idea that I was a man came to my mind, and this was trying to take over me completely. Although by common sense I knew it was, I did not feel like one.
It was a very complicated situation for me, that could not fit, at that moment I felt anything, unless I was a man, I really felt someone very weak and helpless, very hurt, like a small child. When I got the idea that I was a man, that lasted me one day and then I rejected it because I felt it as an unbearable and incomprehensible burden for me. This same event occurred a few times more approximately every 3 or 4 weeks. And always I ended up discarding it.
Each time these events became stronger, and I began to feel and have some small visions that The Sacred Heart of Jesus was the author of this. I consulted in the Word of God constantly, and it told me very often that I should forgive, and love and love me. I had to accept that God had already forgiven me, accept and feel that He loved me and forgive me, love myself and my body, that is indispensable.

I started going to a psychologist, by recommendation of my brother and my mother, the same person who had seen me when I was 11 years old, is a Catholic believing psychologist. I had three queries, and he told me to write down on a piece of paper everything I remembered about the difficult events of my childhood, because when I was 10 years old I had a very difficult situation: from one moment to the next I did not want to go back to school, I was very anxious and scared, I just wanted to be in the house with my mom and that nobody asked me anything about why it would not bother me. I started to Somatize diseases, my mom did not know what to do etc. The next year I tried to go back but I could not. Up to a year and a half or so I was able to go back to another school. I never understood what happened to me, I had some symptoms but I did not understand the causes. That had consequences in the rest of my life until recently etc. Then on two occasions I tried to do the task that the psychologist had given me to remember that time of my childhood to see what new I could find, but I just could not remember anything new , and those two nights I could not sleep almost nothing. But at least a little after going to the Holy Mass (I went daily and now I do) I arrived at my house and began to see things like that in my childhood: a rape a very strong wound in my being as a male (I have known that when you have a trauma the mind can forget it as a self defense mechanism). Immediately and as always I tried to forgive that person with prayer, and then I began to feel as if something was taken from me, and with great vehemence I regained my identity as a man. Another day after praying the Holy Rosary, I began to have another small vision of that same time of my childhood. As a result of my constant prayer and struggle to please God at all times, I received inner healing throughout my life. The love or rejection and wounds that are received from the mother's womb during childhood and later throughout life affect and build each person in their integral being. In my personal case I had situations of abuse in my childhood, rejections and ridicule of people. Some of these situations were hidden in my memory, even so I had the symptoms: anxiety, anguish, panic attacks etc. Through prayer I was able to remember and heal these things, and these symptoms began to disappear little by little.

It is necessary to realize the existence of a world not only material but also spiritual. In my process of spiritual liberation that goes hand in hand with inner healing, I could through prayer, discover other elements that affected me since I was in the womb: curses and witchcraft of people close to my family and me etc.

In addition to prayer, and trust in God, it is also necessary to have a constant attitude in daily life. I lived in trauma and in sadness and I did not overcome that state, the opposite is to forgive, to love everyone and enemies as well, to try to be happy always so the opposite feels, humility etc. Do not let yourself be overcome by anxiety, anguish, sadness, pride, hatred, etc. Jesus is our only way, He is our joy.

Although it has been a difficult path for me, it really is worth it. The amount of wounds and difficult moments in my life was so strong, huge wounds and wounds in my self-esteem but especially in my being as a man, in my masculinity. Jesus has healed me, gives me strength and above all the love I so much sought, in prayer, in a very special way in the Eucharist and also in devotion to his Blessed Mother, who is also my Mother. I feel that the old thirst to look for another man is extinguished, I am that man that looked so much, I recovered my lost identity !!! I love God first, I love myself and I love others as myself. I have forgiven myself and I have forgiven others.

People look at me differently: they respect me and take me into account much more than before. I feel better. I also feel now a healthy and true attraction to women, not uncontrolled or forced, something natural. I have also received many other enormous blessings in my work and study.

It is not something magical, it is something of struggle and above all of having a lot of faith in God and not accepting defeat never, never, ever. Without God this process could not have been carried out, it is Jesus who has done it all, the only thing I have done has been to let myself be guided by Him and trust Him. I asked God for help from the bottom of my soul and He he listened Of course there are blessings, but there will also continue to be problems and difficulties. I have to stay united with Jesus to keep me on my feet. I can not do anything, and I am nothing without Him.

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the-path
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  2. Posté le 03/01/2018 à 17:51:09  
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Je pense que ce message est un troll, mais je trouve que ça reste intéressant de discuter de ce qu'il raconte.

Pour ceux qui ne se débrouillent pas suffisamment en anglais pour comprendre ce qui est dit, en gros le mec raconte qu'il avait des attirances homosexuelles mais que grâce à Dieu et à la foi il les a effacées et il a dorénavant des attirances naturelles et non forcées seulement pour les filles.

Je veux réagir en disant que si ce mec ce sent mieux comme il est, tant mieux, mais que c'est globalement absurde selon moi de vouloir "devenir hétéro". Comme on l'a toujours dit ici, l'orientation sexuelle ne se choisit pas et je doute que l'influence divine, qu'on soit croyant ou non, puisse avoir le moindre poids là-dedans.
La religion se doit d'accepter les hommes tels qu'ils sont. L'homosexualité n'est pas un vice, donc se proposer de changer ceux qui sont homosexuels est tout simplement pour moi une aberration.

Je tiens à prendre une position un peu plus radicale quant à la religion. Je précise que c'est mon point de vue, et je ne le considère pas comme une vérité absolue, seulement ma vérité à moi.
Selon moi, la religion apporte davantage de mal que de bien dans ce monde. L'homme en a peut-être eu besoin par le passé. Aujourd'hui, je crois qu'elle lui nuit beaucoup.

Les gens, suivez vos propres chemins et ne laissez pas les autres vous dire ce qui est bon pour vous. Ne laissez pas non plus les autres faire les choses à votre place. Chacun peut et doit avoir sa place dans ce monde. Dès lors que quelqu'un prétendra savoir mieux que vous ce que vous devez faire pour être heureux, fuyez-le comme la peste.


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  2. Posté le 03/01/2018 à 18:42:00  
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Par contre se topic date de 2013
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korosensei
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  2. Posté le 04/01/2018 à 01:30:44  
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La religion as été crée pour que les Hommes expliquent les phénomènes qu'ils ne comprenaient pas (La Vie, la mort, les éléments, La Peur, les émotions). La religion est interessante as étudier mais il faut savoir prendre du recul pour se dire si l'on pense vraiment que cela existe.
Moi j'allais à l'Eglise avnt et les cours de Cathéchisme étaient interessant surtout au niveau de l'histoire car les religions on construit les peuples. Mais on nous disait que si on avait des problèmes Dieu nous aideraient. Après plusieurs chose horrible dans ma vie je
me suis dit que si Dieu m'aimait, il m'aurais aidé depuis bien longtemps et aurai empéché la mort d'être cher par exemple.
Pour conclure je pense qu'il faut prendre du recul sur la religion pour voir si l'on croit vraiment
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the-path
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  2. Posté le 04/01/2018 à 12:16:38  
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Afrenchdude a écrit :

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Oui, mais les ups ne sont pas forcément nuisibles s'ils permettent de nourrir des échanges constructifs !

KoroSensei a écrit :

La religion as été crée pour que les Hommes expliquent les phénomènes qu'ils ne comprenaient pas (La Vie, la mort, les éléments, La Peur, les émotions). La religion est interessante as étudier mais il faut savoir prendre du recul pour se dire si l'on pense vraiment que cela existe.
Moi j'allais à l'Eglise avnt et les cours de Cathéchisme étaient interessant surtout au niveau de l'histoire car les religions on construit les peuples. Mais on nous disait que si on avait des problèmes Dieu nous aideraient. Après plusieurs chose horrible dans ma vie je
me suis dit que si Dieu m'aimait, il m'aurais aidé depuis bien longtemps et aurai empéché la mort d'être cher par exemple.
Pour conclure je pense qu'il faut prendre du recul sur la religion pour voir si l'on croit vraiment
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Bien d'accord avec toi.


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